Monday, October 31, 2005

Delhi Serial Blasts : FOIL rationalises and Rejoicing

FROM : "Raja Swamy"
Email :

Hindu Middle roaders (those who pretend to sit on the fence until some
shit happens after which they join the chorus of majoritarianism) talk
like this about the "community" being the problem - this is nothing
but a bunch of crap. first, we dont even know who the hell did this.
Secondly even if it were LeT or Al_CIAda, it is utterly wrong to think
that those of Muslim heritage have anything more to answer for this
than say Bhutanese Buddhist monks lounging in a dhaba in Thimpu have
to answer for the fascism of Sinhalese JVP Buddhist nuts.

Did these superintelligent Aryabhattas* demand that all Hindus somehow
explain why Hinduvadis massacred thousands of Muslims in Gujarat?

Did he read this

'Post-Godhra toll: 254 Hindus, 790 Muslims' -- SECULAR GOVERNMENT FIGURES

'Post-Godhra toll: 254 Hindus, 790 Muslims'


that case the "community" was actively engaged in the violence
alongside the troglodytes in khaki chaddis - hah, Hindu rashtra did
not sail into the scene like a pack of cuddly rabbits. HMRs are quick
to slip on a victim complex with one eye open and the other
permanently shut in a permanent state of terminal Nirvana. When an
outrage like Delhi happens, they turn furiously towards us pretending
to be all seeing, and demand why Muslims exist.

Unless these cretinous HMRs kick their own lumpen alter-egos in the
nuts and thereby wrench open both eyes, the Hindu Taliban will only
grow in proportion to the slimeballs on the other side of the fascist


* HMRs (thanks to the cool dude who coined this word - you know who
you are!) tend to be overrepresented among certain demographic
clusters like engineers, computer scientists, corporate types, believe
piously in a variety of smiling and smirking multi-armed deities, and
dont question the illogic of associating everything good with "Hindu
culture" and everything awful with "outsiders," "invaders," and
"aliens" even as they type their pious invectives about "outsiders"
from cushy silicon valley or similarly endowed corporate offices.


FROM : Amalorpavanathan

Where are we getting to? Everytime a terrorist attack takes
place ,every muslim,man,woman and child in this country should swear
that they dont support terrorism?
Do we apply the same logic in
Gujarat. Did we apply the same logic in Staines gruesome murder.
terrorist let it be said has no religion and so are his /her

a TERRORIST ???? WOOOOOO ! This guy is needs psychiatric treatment

Then people who killed innocents are FREEDOM FIGHTERS in his view .
This is Language of Anti-India, Anti-Hindu

supporters.Let us not treat the ordinary hindu and muslim differently.
When the mutt head in Kanchi was apprehended how many Hindu
organisations and individuals came out in support of rule of law which
does not distinguish between persons of different occupations.

FROM :Kaleem Kawaja

Mr Wasnik,
Your allegation that terrorists (who may be Muslims) were able to
blasts in the shopping Centers in New Delhi, because some Muslim
etc helped them is a very irresponsible statement.

Tell me how Naxalites and Maoists (who are mostly not Muslims or
commit so many acts of terrorism in India? In the non-Muslim,
Indian community suporting them?

Kaleem Kawaja


-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of vibe wasnik
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [india-unity] A.I.M. Condemns New Delhi Blasts, Expresses
sympathy with victims

HI friends,
I really want to know as to how come these
terrorists even accomplished something so dirty. Do
these people get some kind of a support from some
fanatic elements of the muslim community.

What I am tryign to get to is, when the
terrorists come to india, they obviously don't live in
hindu localities, because first of all they are
muslims and the second thing is they might look
extremly suspicious if they are planning out
terrorists activities.

Now if we assume that all the muslims in
india are against islamic terrorism then we have the
following alternatives.
These people must be living in muslim
communities. Now I don't think that these terrorist
live completely isolated. Because if they did then,
the muslim community may get suspicous of their
intentions, Also if these people really mix well with
the muslims taking this problem in to consideration,
some non terrorist muslims must be atleast getting
hints of what these terrorists are up to.

With the whole muslim community being
potrayed as terrorists, I feel that the whole muslim
community should be completely against these lumpen
elements, and if that is the case, I don't think it
would have been really difficult to snuff these
terrorists out,before they accomplish anything. The
only way that the terrorists could have accomplished
something so drastic if there is a non negligible
fractoin of indian muslims who actually back these
people up. If this is the case I feel that it is not
just condemnation from the muslim community that will
get rid of problems of this kind but, a whole hearted
effort by the muslims to really check the lumpen
elements in its community. Because like it or not, it
will be really difficult to answer to the likes of
thackeray if we cannot answer to allegations like,
muslims cheer pakistan during india pak matches.
Condemnations of terrorist acts by the community will
really look shallow under such circumstances.


Saturday, October 22, 2005

Mau riots , why you are silence ? In future don't counsel ......

I demand to know why Muslims, Christians and secular Hindu organizations which were so vocal about the backlash aftermath of the Godhra massacre of 26 Hindu women and children, are so deafeningly silent about what has happened in Mau. If they do not speak up now, then they should keep their counsel, for it will not be relevant in the future. Their silence on the bogus cases filed on the Kanchi Shankaracharyas has already radicalized Hindus.


IntelliBriefs: Mau riots early warning for all patriotic Indians

Sunday, October 16, 2005

MODI's BJP won Karnavati municipal body

BJP wrests control of Ahmedabad municipal body

Manas Dasgupta

Returns to power after five years, securing more than a two-thirds majority

Of the 129 seats, the BJP claimed 96 seats leaving only 32 to the Congress
State BJP confident of similar favourable results in the coming panchayat and municipal elections

AHMEDABAD: Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi led the Bharatiya Janata Party to an impressive victory in the elections to the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation (AMC).

The BJP wrested control of the State's most important municipal corporation from the Congress, securing more than a two-thirds majority in the 129-member civic body.

It claimed 96 seats, leaving only 32 to the Congress while a lone seat went to an independent. The Akhil Bharatiya Jana Sangh, put up to challenge the BJP with the support of the anti-Modi factions within the party, was wiped out.

The BJP returns to power in the city civic body after a gap of five years. In the 2000 elections the Congress elbowed it out, ending its uninterrupted 13-year rule. The BJP's defeat last time was one of the major setbacks to the former Chief Minister Keshubhai Patel, who has now risen in revolt against Mr. Modi.

Single-handed fight

Mr. Modi fought the elections almost single-handedly against the combined opposition of the Congress and the BJP dissidents.

Barely three days before Thursday's polling, the differences within the Sangh Parivar reached a crescendo following a police raid on the office of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad city general secretary, Ashwin Patel, who, Mr. Modi believed, was behind the numerous anonymous anti-BJP pamphlets distributed all over the city.

While there was a virtual revolt by dissidents, who refused to participate even in coordination committee meetings, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh volunteers, hitherto diehard supporters of Mr. Modi, kept away from electioneering and the VHP came out almost openly against the BJP.

VHP sources admitted that Mr. Modi and VHP international general secretary Pravin Togadia, who hails from Ahmedabad, were almost not on talking terms after BJP president L.K. Advani called Pakistan founder Mohammad Ali Jinnah `secular' and the Chief Minister stood by him.

Mr. Advani was Mr. Modi's "saviour" in the face of dissident attacks against his leadership.

The search of Mr. Patel's office premises further led to the VHP abandoning the BJP in the civic polls. It is likely to maintain its stance also in the panchayat and the municipal elections later this month.

While a number of Central ministers and senior leaders campaigned for the Congress, for Mr. Modi it was almost a lone battle.

Morale booster to party

The victory in the AMC has boosted the morale of the BJP with the second round of local self government elections round-the-corner; 23 district panchayats, 209 taluk panchayats and 49 municipalities go to the polls on October 25.

The resignation last week by the three senior BJP leaders, Mr. Patel, the former Union Minister, Kashiram Rana, and the former State president, Rajendrasinh Rana, from the committee to select candidates for the panchayat and municipal elections was enough indication that the dissidents were in no mood to cooperate with Mr. Modi.

"Dissidents helping rebels"

Party sources admitted that some of the dissident MLAs from Ahmedabad as well as some VHP leaders owing allegiance to Mr. Keshubhai Patel were helping the rebel BJP or independent candidates. In some cases they even openly campaigned against the BJP.

State BJP president Vajubhai Vala said the outcome of the AMC elections demonstrated the people's confidence in the BJP to take the "mega city" and the State on the path of development.

He said he was confident that favourable results would come for the party in the panchayat and municipal elections as well